Pot Farm Plots Issue 18

Goings On LWV issue 18 Sept 23 09

The Garden Center Advisory Group of the Community Activities Committee of the Golden Rain Foundation Board (sounds like something right out of Imperial Russia, doesn’t it?) is meeting tomorrow…that’s THURSDAY morning at 9:00 am in the Birch room.

Anybody who would like to have an explanation about allowing 4 people, two of whom are NOT members of LWV, to grow pot on a community and therefore common ground garden plot might want to attend and ask questions. Bob Hatch heads up the CAC as chair and one of his very favorite things to say is “well, let’s just do it and if it’s illegal we’ll fix it later.” The chair person of the garden center advisory group is none other than the magazine toting champagne drinking GAIL McNULTY who said to the audience at large during the last broadcast GRF meeting that “the sheriff has approved” the plot. That is not true. In fact it was denied in writing by Lt. Griffin, who represents the Sheriff in Laguna Woods. He said, “The Sheriff’s Department did not approve the growing of the marijuana.” Perhaps McNulty should put her magazine and her champagne glass down and pay attention to her responsibilities. Surely one of the pair of McNulty’s serving on two different boards in this community could try to bear the responsibility they have chosen to undertake.

Ask, for instance, what extra security measures have been put in place at YOUR EXPENSE (any and all, remember) to assure the safety of the REST OF THE RESIDENTS who aren’t growing pot on common ground. Oh, you mean there wasn’t any extra security? Ask just exactly how many mature and immature plants there are on the plot. For EACH person bearing a proper prescription there is a limit of 6 mature OR 12 immature plants. Let’s see….that would be 24 mature plants or 48 mature plants TOTAL in that ENTIRE GARDEN PLOT. Better to ask why it was even considered allowable when there are much smaller things disallowed because of potential harm or danger to others such as riding a gyroscooter. WHY are non resident’s who are also not even members being allowed to use garden space when there is a list a mile long of people who DO qualify according to GRF’s OWN RULES for garden space. McNulty must have reached a really interesting decorating page that day.

Ask why they don’t spend as much attention to fulfilling their RESPONSIBILITY AND OBLIGATION to the members of this community as they do to covering their butts when they are caught with their pants down around their ankles…..over and over and over and over again. Why don’t they spend as much attention to responsibility and obligation to the members as they do to manipulating the vote in a recall election. Gail McNulty was one of the targeted directors in that recall, by the way, and the message from the 42-45% was very loud clear. (Somehow it stinks to high heaven of unethical – at the very least – to have two people from the same household sitting on two different boards; James McNulty on GRF and Gail McNulty on United. Hmmmm, I wonder how many votes they cast as members. Are there special rules for couples serving concurrently on boards?)

Ask them when they intend to fire PCM and disband themselves as trustees so we can move forward with a REAL trustee and management that has a clue about integrity and ethics.

Demand action from your boards. All of them. FIRE PCM. DISBAND GRF.

Issue 17 September 22 09

Water, Water Everywhere and We’re Exempt so…….

Apparently WE (Laguna Woods Village) can water any time we want, as much as we want, as irresponsibly as we want. At least that is what John Paulus, Landscaping Committee Chairman of Third would like us to do. I’m sure he’s had it confirmed by his connections with STAFF. Let’s see would that be the infamous Ismael Saenz and Brian Gentry or did he only listen to what Kurt Rahn, Milt Johns’ head of landscaping, had to say?

I asked Paulus why the sprinklers were running at full blast during mid-day which is the highest evaporation period and least effective watering time. We have been pounded with information from the City, from El Toro Water and from all our boards about how we have to cut back on water. We heard how THIRD was going to be fined if the water overage was as great during the next measuring period as it was during the last. Apparently the domestic use (that would be individual manors) was horrendous with some housing units using enough to wash their personal battleships daily. It also appears that there might possibly be some water meter problems! Wow, go figure! It might not ALL be residents just opening all their valves and letting the water pour fourth at full velocity after all.That information didn't come from Paulus, however. That information came from Dick Palmer, candidate for the board.

We are in a Level 1 Water Alert which has been in effect since July 1, 2009. In the brochure received from the City just Saturday it says Laguna Woods may water Tuesday, Friday and either Saturday or Sunday. Ok. Then it says WATERING IS PROHIBITED BETWEEN 10:00AM AND 5:00PM. Common sense would indicate that that is prime evaporation time…that time when the sun is highest and hottest and the water never touches the ground, it just becomes vapor. It makes COMMON SENSE not to water during those hours. But, as Paulus says, “We’re exempt.” (He is using "we" in the Imperial sense and it is only the outside watering done by the mutuals and GRF who are exempt...not individual manors) So it’s okay not to use any part of common sense and just go ahead and water any old way and waste not only the water but the plants that are being killed by neglect.

Being exempt doesn’t excuse irresponsible behavior and that is exactly what is going on with watering when the heat of the day is literally sucking the moisture out of the air before it ever gets to ground. When are boards going to get their glass navels adjusted so they can begin to SEE what they should be doing….OVERSEEING the operations here. I don’t care if we’re exempt from something like watering hours. If it doesn’t make good sense to water then WHY ARE WE DOING IT? I don’t care what Rahn or his underlings have to say….WHERE IS YOUR BRAIN? WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?

Thanks for the explanation, Paulus. It was up to your usual standard of getting partial information but not even bothering to take it a step farther and ask the next question…”does this even make sense?”

No, it doesn’t make sense. The system is on a highly touted computer program. So program it to turn on and off during the hours when it isn’t going to go completely to waste. Further explanation is called for from our boards and the managing company who is driving us all into bankruptcy.

PCM has GOT to go and the sooner the better. GRF is bleeding our trust dry and we have no need for them. We can get a “real” trustee” without so much as even blinking. It is long past time to replace these total and complete incompetents.

Correcting the Record, Issue 15

Issue 15 September 09
During the Third Mutual Board meeting of September 15, Carol Moore practically broke her arm self congratulating. The other board members who have spent one grim year with her at the helm were all damned with faint praise save two….John Paulus and Kathryn Freshley. Moore no longer ever appears in public or indeed in closed session without her leech companion Freshley. Is Freshley afraid Moore will say or do something she isn’t “allowed” to in public? Is she afraid she’ll have another violent episode of temper and is now Moore’s watchdog?
Moore’s opening remarks were quite interesting. In them she discussed the number of times Milt Johns, General Manager of LWV and employee of PCM had issued ultimata to the board of Third; the first in January of 09 when I was present and again several times later. Milt sat on his tuffet at the end of the dais turning redder and redder while appearing to give birth to spiders and later attempted to publicly discipline the queen of sequins. For the first time in her tenure as a board member she kept her mouth zipped.
Moore also mentioned having to deal with “issues with a director”. She was referring, of course, to the unsuccessful attempt by her, Freshley and Paulus to unseat me from the board after they had elected me to the position of director. This is where we come to some VERY INTERESTING QUESTIONS.
Did Carol Moore, President of Third Mutual, misuse Third Mutual Funds for her personal problem?
In February during a closed session of the Third Board Moore threw a bottle of water across the table at me. Doing that was a personal act. Criminal acts are not shielded by closed session. Filing a police report was not a breach of confidentiality. She didn’t consult with the board, she didn’t take a vote, there was no resolution passed. Nobody in Third helped her propel the bottle across the table. SHE did it. It was a personal act.
I filed charges against her. They were filed against Carol Moore; not against the Third Board, not any member of Third other than Moore; ONLY Moore.
The OCRegister reported the following on March 5: “Moore declined to detail her version of events, but said ‘I did not throw a water bottle at anyone’ (and here’s the critical phrase, folks) THROUGH LWV’S MANAGEMENT COMPANY, PROFESSIONAL COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT.” The question here is: WHY is Moore speaking THROUGH PCM when the entire incident was a PERSONAL act? WHO was billed for the service of being SPOKESPERSON for Moore via PROFESSIONAL COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT? Any activity PCM engages in is billed to one of the 4 boards. Just as a lawyer keeps track of time so does PCM. If Third paid for the legal services of Moore and her private problem wouldn’t that a blatant misuse of Third Mutual Funds by a director for personal business?
The second question to be asked is: How would THIRD MUTUAL incur LEGAL charges unless something like the Third Mutual attorney (Adams/Kessler at the time) was used by Moore for her personal advice and counsel? WHO PAID THAT LEGAL BILL? Did Third? I have asked several directors to find out and answer that very question but none have done so to date. What is being hidden? Isn’t using the THIRD MUTUAL ATTORNEY for PERSONAL LEGAL ADVICE a misuse of Third Mutual funds?
A third question would be: Why/how would Third Mutual incur any legal expenses at all before a completely unrelated lawsuit was filed against Third Mutual? That is what Kathryn Freshley stated in her comments to the OC Register August 4: “McDaniel initiated legal costs before she was removed; her removal and lawsuit were later.” WHAT COSTS DID I INITIATE WITH THE THIRD BOARD? NONE. You can bet I didn’t call Adams/Kessler which is the only legal counsel for Third I know of (at that time.) The bottle incident had absolutely NOTHING to do with the question of law involved in the law suit I filed against Third Mutual. That should have cost only Moore her own funds IF she consulted with an attorney for HER OWN BEHAVIOR and the difficulty she brought upon herself for her act. But, unless the attempted removal from the board was the PUNISHMENT for filing a complaint with the Sheriff then there was absolutely NO REASON for Moore to use Third’s lawyers for ANYTHING. If, indeed the whole removal issue was punitive and vindictive then there is a whole other problem coming to light with the operation of the Third Mutual Board and they would have explaining to do.
Did Carol Moore misuse Third Mutual money? Prove to me she did not. Every single time Moore or Freshley brings this up they dig themselves in deeper. They need to accept that the lawsuit is OVER. Moore needs to learn personal responsibility and how to behave in the company of others. Just ask Lixian Lai, a resident who spoke Tuesday.
The truly bizarre end result is that they lost a staunch ally and supporter of many of the actions which they are currently contemplating and implementing vis a vis the managing agent and general manager.
A longtime and very vocal PCM supporter spoke during Member Comments at the Third meeting to decry the action(s) being taken by Third ostensibly against Milt Johns. Although one director chose to believe she was talking about the recall which had nothing to do with the Third Board (beyond several being directly, heavily involved in the No on recall effort) subsequent comments by Milt, Moore and other board members left absolutely no doubt that her comments were directed against unstated actions being taken against Johns by one or more boards. The fact that the resident had difficulty reading the prepared statement further supports the interpretation that she was speaking against actions discussed in executive session which have still not been disclosed to the public beyond Marv Rosenhaft’s letter to the Disbro boys, et al.
Did this resident have inside and confidential information as yet publicly undisclosed? Was her speech written for her? If the speech was written for her, who wrote it? Was her speech written by anyone in the employ of PCM? Was the information supplied through the usual source; the longtime conduit to Positive Solutions and PCM by a former board member? There are lots and lots and lots of questions but one thing is for certain: Carol Moore doesn’t know how to comport herself properly and she and her keepers need to move forward. It would be a good idea to start with a simple apology for her behavior. I won’t hold my breath but that one act could have prevented a world of angst for her both in the past and possibly in the very near future.

PCM and breach of Confidential Information

Goings On LWV September 09 issue 14

Four years ago when we moved in to our home in Laguna Woods and Third Mutual, our telephone was listed in the telephone book (SBC) but our address was not….. by specific request. We have never, ever been listed in any Laguna Woods directory not because we didn’t want to be but because it just never appeared. In the latest phone book our name and ADDRESS as well are listed. How did this happen? Who is responsible? When we moved in here we gave emergency contact information to PCM as part of the package we were required to provide. In the latest phone book that CONFIDENTIAL EMERGENCY information has appeared. The emergency contact never lived with us at this address. In the latest phone book our emergency contact name, our address, and the contact’s unlisted phone number WHICH IS OUT OF STATE is listed. How did this information become public? Who disclosed the information? When we moved in four years ago photographs were taken to be used for our LWV ID cards ONLY. We were assured they were for that purpose and that purpose alone; that it is confidential and would be used for NO OTHER PURPOSE EVER. We have not changed our consent to have the information used.
Cheryl Walker called when I was elected to the board and asked for a current photo to use in the story in the Globe; before I was able to e-mail the photo to Walker the LWV ID photo appeared in her story. It was in fact, used several times over the next months in both the Globe and OCRegister which owns the Globe. I gave no authorization to release this photo AT ANY TIME TO ANYBODY FOR ANY REASON. Who released it? Since this information and this photograph were only in PCM maintained confidential files this means there has been a breach of confidentiality and a dispersal of private and confidential information by PCM. If I were the only person thus victimized by the managing agent it could be considered personal harassment. It is indeed harassment, and possibly ID Theft. However, since this board is aware of at least one other Third Mutual resident also having personal and confidential information made public it becomes a PATTERN of activity. Has someone profited from the release of this information? Who might that be? Have membership lists and personal and confidential information been sold to outside interests? If so, who profited? Who authorized this activity? Who is responsible? What is being done specifically to rectify this situation?
It is interesting to note that a member is entitled to a membership list which includes names and addresses of fellow members. However, past experience has demonstrated that membership lists are not given to members when they are simply requested of the managing agent. Why then, is confidential information about members available to what appears to be paying customers?

The Pot Thickens, Those Responsible Hide issue 16

Here’s Lt. Bill Griffin’s response to the legality of the POT FARM on LWV COMMUNITY garden center ground which is COMMON AREA. “The marijuana plot in the Laguna Woods Village was examined by a Sheriff’s Department Narcotics Investigator. It was found to be in compliance with State Law through the Compassionate Use Act. The Sheriff’s Department did not approve the growing of the marijuana.”
Note particularly the last sentence where he said the Sheriff’s Department did not approve the growing of the marijuana. I guess Gail McNulty was talking out of order again when she said the Sheriff had approved it at the United Board meeting on Tuesday, September 8.
Here’s the URL for Senate Bill 420 which makes it legal, in California, to grow and use pot. However, it is still illegal under Federal law. Pay close attention to section 11362.77 (a) which defines exactly how much may be kept/grown/processed and ONLY for an individual. http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/03-04/bill/sen/sb_0401-0450/sb_420_bill_20031012_chaptered.html "A qualified patient or primary caregiver may possess no more than eight ounces of dried marijuana per qualified
patient. In addition, a qualified patient or primary caregiver may
also maintain no more than six mature or 12 immature marijuana plants
per qualified patient." That is about a truck load of dope, folks, for one person. But 4 here of whom 2 are not even members of any mutual in LWV need an entire COMMUNITY garden plot on COMMON AREA.
The response from the Sheriff’s department via Lt. William Griffin, Chief of Police Services, Laguna Woods is too short and actually prompts more questions than he answered. Unfortunately it’s really tough to get the Lt. to respond to queries of any kind. Some of the questions are as follow:
Was the examination of the plot deemed for one person or for how many and were they in compliance with all the requirements of Proposition 215 which is known as the Compassionate Use Act?
A single COMMUNITY garden plot on LWV COMMON AREA would be large enough to produce pot for half the population of LWV. Just how many plants are being grown per qualified person?
When he says “the Sheriff’s Department did not approve the growing of the marijuana” what does he mean exactly? Does he mean to say that the investigator is not part of the Orange County Sheriff’s Department? If not, what agency was represented? Are we to infer that there are non-compliance issues yet to be resolved? Does he mean it is outside the parameters of what can be approved? We are once again left in the limbo of no real answer from the OCSD on this.
Just who are the persons of record for the Compassionate Use of the COMMUNITY garden plot on COMMON AREA ground in LWV?
Exactly how does one go about contacting the Sheriff’s Department Narcotics Investigator to get Compassionate Use ruling? Does the contact person need to be on the City Council? (Which in this case would be tantamount to asking GRF if it was okay. We already know that they think it is just hunky dorey and okay with them based on their little tea party attitude when Ray Gros announced the presence of the garden of the stoned.)
The U.S. Supreme Court has twice upheld the ability of federal officials to enforce federal law despite the protections afforded to patients under state law. The case of Gonzales v. Raich challenged the federal position by claiming that simple cultivation of plant was outside the federal regulatory scheme of interstate commerce. While initially successful in the Ninth Circuit, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down this argument. However, in his opinion, Justice Stevens expressed, while he denied them support at this time, he hoped "the voices of voters allied with these respondents may one day be heard in the halls of Congress." Justice O'Connor wrote in her dissenting opinion stated "This case exemplifies the role of states as laboratories."
It's all about MONEY. We need to FIRE PCM and dissolve GRF before they DESTROY US.

Letter from Corkey and Noni Eley September 9,2009

September 09. 2009

Milt Johns, General Manager
Erwin Stuller, President GRF
Carol Moore, President Third Mutual
Lloyd foster, President United Mutual

Re-Dissolution of Rossmoor Leisure World Laguna Hill Corporation.

The internet is a remarkable tool to get almost any information on any subject you request. We were interested in what is the criteria to dissolve
ROSSMOOR LEISURE WORLD LAGUNA HILLS a nonprofit homeowner’s corporation??

Below are two (2) statements on the dissolution of nonprofit corporations from the 9 pages of internet printouts we requested on what is the criteria to dissolve Ca. corporations.

1. The voluntary dissolution of a domestic nonprofit corporation is initiated by an election to dissolve. The election to dissolve may be made by the VOTE or Written consent of a majority of all the members of the
Corporation or, if there are no members, by the board of directors. Following this election the corporation must file documents with the Secretary of State. Statutory filing requirements are found in California Corporation Code Sections 6611, 8611, 9680 or 12631.

2. Mutual benefit corporations: If the dissolving corporation is a Mutual benefit corporation and the corporation is holding assets in a
Charitable trust, the distribution of those assets must be approved by the
Attorney General or made by decree of the Superior Court. (Corporation Code 8716).

Mr. Harry Curtis, President of Golden Rain foundation in May, 2005 and Milt Johns, PCM General manager called a Special Closed Session Meeting
Of the four boards (Golden Rain, United, Third and Fifty). This meeting was called to solicit Votes to CHANGE the Rossmoor Leisure World Laguna
Hills NAME without the VOTE or APPROVAL of the 12,736 homeowners.

To dissolve a nonprofit homeowner’s corporation in California requires a little more than a group of directors in a closed session meeting voting to dissolve the name of Rossmoor Leisure World Laguna Hills Corporation. “A certificate of election to wind up and dissolve is required when the
Election to dissolve was approved by less than 100 percent of the
Members, or if the corporation has no members, by less than a 100 percent of the Directors. To complete the dissolution process the corporation MUST also file a certificate of Dissolution pursuant
to Ca. corporation codes Section 6615, 8615, 9680 and 12535”.

To our knowledge there were NO papers filed to dissolve Rossmoor
Leisure World Laguna Hills Corporation, therefore this community remains Leisure World not Laguna Woods Village a fictitious name.
All of Rossmoor Leisure World Laguna Hills land and assets are held in the
Original trust filed March 2, 1964, with GRF the Trustee and the Mutual’s
(United, Third and Fifty) the Trustors .

WAS ROSSMOOR LEISURE WORLD LAGUNA HILLS CORPORATION DISSOLVED ???


CORKEY and Noni Eley

Cc: Attorney General
Orange County District Attorney
HUD

Issue #13 Advertising Bills paid for by members

The great 45th anniversary celebration of LWV was held Saturday 9/6 at CH5. I was amused when a neighbor came by and dropped off a couple bottles of water they had gotten up there. People are always bringing me different bottles of water, and shoes because it is an indication that they haven’t forgotten the infamous water bottle and the attempt by the board to unseat me as a result of filing criminal charges against the person who threw a bottle, Carol Moore. In this case their reason was to ask why was advertising for the real estate arm of PCM on bottles bearing our logo; had we licensed the use of the logo to them; WHO PAID FOR IT?
It would not be the first time we had paid for advertising for the real estate arm of PCM. According to the General Ledger for 2004, printing, type-setting and production of brochures for Laguna Woods Properties, Resales, etc. amounted to about $1800.00 on one day in November alone. Not as much as Angel’s baseball tickets at $3662.00 that same year, but after all baseball is more fun. Did you enjoy the games? (We can’t even get them all on our lovely Channel 6, you know. According to McArthur it’s just too expensive but we have something like 11 foreign language channels.)
Interestingly enough there was an explanation from none other than Wendy Bucknum to Mike Curtis when he asked her about it. She said the expense was “authorized by the GRF Board.” Well, we all have to sympathize with Wendy. She’s the one who is terrified of a 72 year old grandmother and is willing to file a SLAPP suit against her along with Milt Johns. Oh, yes, and they used Hart King and Coldren who is supposedly the corporate lawyer for United and GRF but seems to show up more and more representing PCM. But I digress.
Let’s get back to the senior expo and the anniversary celebration where all the commercial junk was being displayed along with the clubs who were soliciting members. Did they have information about the pot farm that GRF/PCM have growing on our community garden plots? It’s being farmed, according to Ray Gros, by two members and two non members. I’m sure they’re proud of the little factory they have going. And, while showing off their lovely amenities do you suppose they talked about how some special people can become so beloved that even if their manor is foreclosed upon and they are no longer residents (or owners) they are given CARte BLANCHE to come and go as they please and use any and all amenities at will? Or is it because they are related to the president of the GRF board, The Great Quivering Pale Grub His Onerous. Has anybody stopped to ask if these same people ALSO DEFAULTED ON ASSESSMENTS leaving Third mutual stuck holding the bag for that expense? Who do you suppose pays out of their assessments for these people and their debt. Thank goodness they are now safely across the street in a new luxury home and don’t have to answer these questions. They are also safe from any marijuana farm problems because they grow their own on their little balcony. Considering the size of the plant and the pot they grow enough for their entire new neighborhood. The stories on NPR and the Globe blog were lovely and informative.
As usual, it’s all about MONEY. We must FIRE PCM and REPLACE GRF as our trustee. PCM has for years seen us as a living breathing money tree and they want it all NOW. Let’s get rid of them NOW and live in some kind of peace. Beware the elections. Keep in mind that Noel Hatch was co-author, along with Bob Hatch and MILT JOHNS of the current Management agreement. “ANY AND ALL EXPENSES”

Secrets and the firing of PCM

After months of hush-hush whispers and rumor over various parts of the community it would appear that the not-so-secret is finally out in the open. There is a drive to fire Milt Johns and the only board members it doesn’t include are Ruth May, Isabel Muennichow, Mary Robertson, Bea McArthur, John Dalis, Gail McNulty, Arlene Miller, Marv Rosenhaft, Marty Rubin, Paul Vogel, Linda Wilson. These dissenting directors and their ELOQUENT letter to the Disbros must be the end result of almost non-stop meetings between Marv and Ruth May. I particularly loved the last line where we were informed that there were some board members “not available to sign”. Doesn’t matter, Marv, you corporate genius, you, they DIDN’T sign the third grade level missive. OH, maybe you are right in making it so simple….you do have to have the GRF board and PCM understand what is being said. Then you had to be able to explain it to those who signed it.

It stretches across all boards including GRF. As Mike Curtis asked in a recent e-mail “Is this payback for Milt providing access to facilities and staff support as part of the NO on Recall?” These pro-Milt signatories are the same directors so adamantly pushing against the recall. It is interesting that these people are the ones who made this go public.

Unfortunately, Carol Moore doesn’t seem to be able to figure out that a GRF Corporate board meeting can be called and it can take place no matter where it is held, who is in attendance and it doesn’t depend on the good offices of PCM or the Great Pale Grub of a president His Onerous Erwin Stuller. Call the stupid thing and MEET. No need to wait with baited (sic) breath for somebody else to do the work. Here’s the By-law:
5.3 CALLING SPECIAL MEETING OF CORPORATE MEMBERS A Special Meeting of Corporate Members may be called by: The President; or by any two GRF officers; or by a resolution approved by a majority of the Board of this Corporation; or by a resolution approved by a majority of the Board of a Corporate Member.

Let’s see, a majority of the board of a corporate member….that would be THIRD or UNITED or TOWERS or GRF…..it ain’t rocket science, Tootsie. Mooreshly manages to call plenty of closed Third meetings held at John Paulus’ rec room (5515 Paseo Del Lago West) at a time when that entity knows full well there will be certain board members unable to attend and thus de facto depriving them of their voices. Have all those meetings been conducted for the purpose of removing Milt or have yet even more topics which should be on the agenda for open session?

I have to ask this question: Who is in charge around here? Is it the mutual boards or PCM? Take a good hard look and tell me.

Bottom line. FIRE PCM. DISBAND GRF AND HIRE A REAL TRUSTEE.

Letter from Corkey and Noni Eley

September 2, 2009

Milt Johns, General Manager
Erwin Stuller, GRF President
Carol Moore, Third Mutual President
Lloyd Foster, United Mutual President

Re-list of Leisure Worlds Governing Documents--8/20/09.

We hope Milt Johns, GRF Board, and United Laguna Hills Mutual
Board, and Third Laguna Hills Mutual Boards have read and analysed
Leisure Worlds governing documents listed in the E-mail dated 8/20/2009.

Below are statements from the first three (3) documents on the list of Leisure World governing documents. These statements should help clarify
Each documents function and role in Rossmoor Leisure World Laguna
Hills, a non-profit senior citizen homeowners association.

(1) Rossmoor Leisure World Corporation Grant Deed was filed in
December 4, 1961 and refilled December 11, 1961 in Orange County,
California. (Rossmoor Leisure World, a Corporation).

(2) Golden Rain Foundation of Santa Ana Articles of Incorporation
Filed November 19, 1962.
THE purpose for which this corporation is formed are: (a) To engage
Primarily and specifically in sponsoring and forming California corporations,
Whose joint purpose will be to develop a community or communities for senior citizens: and to provide services and community facilities to the occupants of the community or communities. (b) To act as a partner and joint venturer and to enter into co partnership and joint venture agreements
with other corporations and with individuals.
(c ) To engage in any business or activity now or hereafter permitted under the General Non-Profit Corporation Law of the State of California.

(3) Declaration of Establishment of Covenants and Restrictions

Filed February 28, 1964 in Orange County, California. Rossmoor
Corporation, a California Corporation hereinafter referred to as “Declarant”,
is the owner of the following described property: That certain real property
In the County of Orange, State of California and described as follows:
All that real property designated as Parcel 2 and Parcel 3 in that certain Grant Deed dated November 30, 1961 and recorded December 4, 1961 in the office of the County Recorder of said Orange County Book 5931 of Official Records at page 586 and re-recorded December 11, 1961, in the office of the
County Recorder of said Orange county in Book 5839 of Official Records at page 534. The Declaration of Establishments of Covenants and
Restrictions filed in February 28, 1964 were filed by the Declarants Attorney and run with the land of Rossmoor Leisure World Corporation.

GRF, United Laguna Hills Mutual, Professional Community Mangement
(PCM) and Hart, King and Coldren, as well as Third Laguna Hills Mutual should explain WHY after reading Leisure Worlds governing documents
and the information given to you by the Discovery Group, you are still saying GRF and United Laguna Hills Mutual have NO CC&R’s? Someone should be held responsible for their actions.

Sincerely Yours


Corkey and Noni Eley

Marajuana being grown in our garden plots!

It’s always fun to listen to the GRF board meetings. Today’s was no exception. The big issue that made me laugh today was the absolute Hubris demonstrated by the Board and in particular the president of the whole mess, Stuller. His behavior was its usual nasty but he really shined in his FORMER FEDERAL JUDGE style when he said we didn’t want the DEA to come down on us. GRF apparently feels it is ABOVE THE LAW.
Quite a statement, Erwin, Bubby. And what could you mean? Well, it seems that it was announced to anybody and everybody within the broadcast realm of Channel 6, the Laguna Woods Village television station, that there are FOUR people sharing at least one Recreation Division GARDEN PLOT being used for GROWING MARAJUANA. Two of those people are NON-RESIDENTS! But it’s okay, according to the board and Ray Gros, Security Chairman, because they all have prescriptions for the marijuana (the Sheriff’s position is that it conforms to California law.) Oh, and they’ll take a look at things with our crack security force.
Not so fast, slick guys. I had a little chat with the DEA shortly after your announcement. It is a federal offense to manufacture, sell or distribute it. What is it being used for? Crop rotation? Manufacture would include growing the stuff. But I’m sure the DEA will just overlook it because Ray and Erwin say it’s being looked at. There is no resolution in place on the GRF policy about growing the plant.
Laguna Woods, the City, passed approval of allowing a dispensary here in the city. But no one can approve the growing of it on LWV property whether it is by resident OR non residents. Is GRF kidding when they think they are going to put a resolution in place about growing it? ARE YOU KIDDING?
This comes on the heels of the story in the Globe Blog on the internet and then a story in NPR and a bunch of other places about Margo Bouer and the rather large and healthy plant on her balcony at the Regency where she now lives. Margo may also remember that her very own husband Dr/Lawyer former Mayor Bob Bouer spoke vehemently against having a dispensary in Laguna Woods when he was still on the city council. As I recall, although I’m not positive, one of his arguments was about safety.
I asked the special agent with whom I spoke about the safety issue of having garden plots of weed, Mary Jane, whatever you care to call home grown cannabis. He said it was a serious problem. We can start with simple trespassing and go all the way to robbery and other pretty frightening things but it’s okay with the GRF board! It’s probably okay with that same esteemed body to have the neighbors of those plots put into jeopardy because of the potential spread factor involved with the growing of Marijuana. Why do you think they call it “weed?” Have you ever stepped out behind the restroom at a highway rest stop and taken a good look at what’s growing back there? Ever have an errant tomato show up in your plot?
GRF has GOT TO GO. We need a real trustee and they must take PCM with them!